Surfacing Podcast interview with Per Axbom

I was recently interviewed by Lisa Welchman and Andy Vitale for their Surfacing Podcast, where they "have conversations with the people who design and create experiences for our world." It's such a warm, reflective podcast and I felt really welcome and at ease being interviewed by them. I got to be excited about the stuff I do and we had brilliant and important conversations on digital harm and the complexity of addressing that harm.

On a personal note I was especially gleeful over Andy's interest in my first computer (a Sinclair ZX81), which I got to show off in our video meeting. 😊

We spoke about compassion and digital ethics, my background in Africa, Sweden's online identification app Bank-ID, my experience with Clubhouse, and I also got a chance to do an audio explanation of the Inclusive Panda model. 🐼

All the places to listen

• Episode 10 of Surfacing Podcast: Per Axbom on Compassion and Digital Ethics – with all the show notes and links, and a photo of me with my first computer!
• Spotify
• Apple Podcasts
• Google Podcasts
• Overcast
• Stitcher

Further listening

• More interviews on Surfacing Podcast.
• You may also enjoy this interview with Lisa Welchman and Andy Vitale themselves on Thunder Nerds: Build a Safer & More Compassionate Web.
• James Royal-Lawson and myself have interviewed Lisa Welchman multiple times on UX Podcast, and she also hosted our episode 200. While I was writing Digital Compassion, Lisa joined James on several occassions to cover for me as host.